Ahojte,

chcel by som upozornit na podozrivy mail, ktory som dostal. Predavam vo Finsku skuter (www.nettimoto.com/kymco/super/1130135) a dostal som podozrivu spravu. Podozriva preto, lebo bola napisana po anglicky a aj preto, lebo pouziva podozrivu emailovu adresu .

Chlapik napisal: is this bike still Valid for sales?if yes mail me garret.waters001@gmail.com

Vygooglil som si tu adresu a co som nenasiel? Polski kolegovia dostali podobne emaily (www.daciaklub.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?p=91250...). Vyskytuju sa tam ine emailove adresy: Jug1960@gmail.com, ralph.darren002@gmail.com apod.

Len pre zaujimavost nasa konverzacia:

Ja jemu:
Hello,

I am answering to your question regarding a scooter ad (www.nettimoto.com/kymco/super/1130135). The ad is still valid.

Regards,
Michal Nagy

Jeho odpoved (dosla o 5 sekund, dalsia podozriva vec ) .. presne v tom isto duchu ako dostal ten Poliak, navyse jeho anglictina akosi zavana google traslatorom:
When last was it serviced, how long have you owned it?? and what's your lowest price for it. I would be able to make payment through paypal, i find it the easiest way to use my credit card safely and is a safe and reliable method of payment... Let me know your price for it .I hope to hear from you soon, and i will make all transportation preparations for it to be transported to my home in Manchester, UK.

Moja odpoved:
It was serviced the last summer. I have owned it for a year. The lowest price is 600 eur. How will you deal with the paperwork? You have to unregister it from Finland.

Jeho rychla odpoved:
i want you to know that i have arrange a private shipping company that will come to Finland and picked the Bike up from your door step down here in UKand they will Handle all Necessary thing about the buying of this Bike both the unregister and i have no means of making bank transfer so i want you to try and open an PayPal account at www.paypal.com and send me your full PayPal details for the payment to you fast......

No, ktory blb by kupoval motorku z Finska, ak moze kupit motorku z UK za takmer polovicnu cenu a bez starosti . Tymto chcem povedat len tolko, ze davajte si pozor!

Upravené 1 krát. Naposledy upravil Pyorailija (01.06.2011 15:38)

jááááj....tohohle s angličtinou nebo lámanou češtinou mi na mail chodí..... hážu rovnou do spamu

Ty si snad dnes objavil internet Vymaz a neries.

Tak teda sorry za spam . Vidim, ze vsetci su tu v tejto oblasti zdatni.

matox - chcel som napisat nieco podobne. Precital som si este raz a... cakal som znamy "prevod" cez Western Union. Ale ajhla... taketo mi este zatial neprislo - "send me your full PayPal details".
Ale vazne - taketo superponuky treba rovno mazat. Ja osobne mazen BEZ otvorenia/precitania vsetko, kde mi je odosielatel neznamy.
palo

Edit: Netreba sa vobec ospravedlnovat za opytanie. Treba sa hanbit a ospravedlnit keby sa spravil nejaku somarinu. A zdatny nie som. Ved som pisal, ze taketo mi este neprislo. Takze Ti patri dikes za rozsirenie mojich vedomosti.

Upravené 2 krát. Naposledy upravil lazysnail (01.06.2011 16:14)

Ja to just nezmazem . Som totiz od prirody zvedavy a chcel by som vediet ako taketo veci funguju.

A ano, ten paypal je tam ta divna vec. Western Union je stary znamy trik, vid jeden nemenovany cesky motorkarsky server kde sa tymto zaoberali hlbsie.

Pyorailija - prve, co ma zarazilo je ten "FULL detail". Zrejme netreba vysvetlovat. Ci je za tym este nieco ine ... skusim si zistit.
palo

Pyorailija: je za tým to, že ty mu pošleš detaily, on ti pošle fake mail s potvrdením o platbe. Pošleš motorku.. potiaľ všetko vyzerá super. Až na výsledok. On má novú motorku a ty nemáš ani motorku ani €.

Ano, to ma tiez zaskocilo, ale to by musel byt ozaj blbec, ktory by poslal viac nez len emailovu adresu (= meno uctu).

GixxerPP - presne toto som myslel tym mojim "zrejme netreba vysvetlovat". Pekne a polopatisticke vysvetlenie si napisal.

Upravené 1 krát. Naposledy upravil lazysnail (01.06.2011 16:23)

Ako moze poslat fake email s potvrdenim? Sak najprv si skontrolujem ci mi platba dosla, nie?

On posle potvrdenie o zaplateni a potom v banke zrusi transakciu. Ma na to dostatok casu. Asi zhruba tak.

Neviem ako presne funguje paypal, ale pokial ma pamat neklame, tak ked ja zaplatim za tovar cez paypal, tak mi prachy stiahne okamzite. Mozem doma vyskusat kupit nejaky tovar a potom sa pozriet ci mi to okamzite stiahne (cez netbanking).

Edit: preklep

Upravené 1 krát. Naposledy upravil Pyorailija (01.06.2011 16:29)

však ked ti príde platba na účet, rýchlo ju vyber a nič mu nepošli. A ostane ti moto aj prachy nejakeho špekulanta

Ono to funguje v paypal tak, že príde ti email s potvrdením o platbe, ale on ti povie (v mene paypalu) že peniaze budú uvoľnené až po doložení potvrdenia o odoslaní (preberací protokol od UPS, TNT).. Nikto žiadnu transakciu nikdy nespraví a žiadne peniaze nemôžeš vybrať, pretože reálne žiadne niesú.

Hmm, zaujimave. Nevedel som, ze takato mozno pre kupujuceho existuje.

Mne prislo v bledomodrom podobne:

Hello,

Thanks for your prompt reply to my request; it seems to me that you are a very sincere person i want to use this means to inform you that I will buy your car at your given price.

But I have a business proposal for you.

I am a captain with the United Nations troop in Iraq, on war against terrorism. Based on the United States legislative and executive decision, for withdrawing troops from Iraq. Our mission is to help beef up terrorist targeted states, mostly the United States and the European Union on war against terrorism.

On the other hand I want to inform you that I have in my possession the sum of (15.9million U.S.D) Which I got from crude oil deal here in Iraq. I deposited this money with a Red Cross agent informing him that we are making contact for the real owner of the money. It is under my power to approve whoever that comes forth for this money.

I want to invest the money in your country as soon as I am deployed for a good business, anyway you will advice me on that since I am not a business person. I cannot move this money to United States because I will be in Europe for about 3years, so I need someone I could trust. If you accept i will transfer the money to Europe.

Where you will be the beneficiary because I am a uniformed person and I cannot be parading such an amount so I need to present someone as the beneficiary. I am an American and an intelligence officer so to say, I have a 100% authentic means of transferring the money through a diplomatic courier service .I just need your acceptance and trust, and then all is done. Please if you are interested in this transaction I will give to you the complete details you need for us to carry out this transaction successfully, I decided to find someone that is real and not imaginary and that is why I went for a secured site where I can be sure that the person is real. I believe I can trust you.

Where we are now we can only communicate through our military communication facilities which is much secured so nobody can monitor our conversation, then I can explain in details to you,at the moment i can only reach you through email, because our calls might be monitored, i just have to be sure of whom I am dealing with.

I will give to you 30% of the sum and 70% is for me. I hope am been fair on this deal, get back to me with your full information such as: Your Full Name,_______ Your Full Address,_________ Your Direct Cell phone Number,_____________Occupation and Age.

If you are interested please send me your personal details for further information when I am out of our military network am writing from a fresh email account so if you are not interested do not reply to this e-mail and please delete this message, if no response after 3days I will then search for someone else. I wait for your contact details so we can go on.

Regards,
Cpt. Frank Anderson

E-mail adresa: frank_anderson.00@hotmail.com

Upravené 1 krát. Naposledy upravil miro263 (01.06.2011 16:38)

Veď ani neexistuje .. Ale čo Ti mal napísať? "Chcem Ťa oje.ať, pošli mi motorku?"

hojte

kedze sa venujem medzinarodnej leteckej a namornej preprave, ktoru organizujeme do/z celeho sveta, maily podobneho typu od takychto "tiezzakaznikov" nam chodia denne a v minulosti sme sa parkrat popalili....

Ale teraz uz nie. Davam univerzalny navod ako sa na 100% vyhnut takymto "podnikatelom"

V ziadnom pripade neorganizovat ani neplatit ziadnu prepravu a nevydavat tovar ziadnej prepravnej spolocnosti, kurierovi a pod., pokial nie je platba pripisana na Vasom ucte. Neuspokojte sa iba s naskenovanym "dokladom o prevode z banky", nech vyzera akokolvek doveryhodne. Takyto prevod sa da velmi lahko zrusit alebo je doklad velmi casto falosny.

Po pripisani sumy na Vas ucet treba tuto ciastku co najskor vybrat v hotovosti alebo previest an iny ucet, pripadne pockat aspon 2 dni, pretoze aj platbu, ktoru uz mate pripisanu na Vasom ucte, Vam moze banka spatne stiahnut.

Akceptovat vyhradne platbu bankovym prevodom. Tito ludia radi vyuzivaju platbu "sekom", ktory Vam poslu postou. Vy ho date do banky preplatit (procedura preplatenia zahranicneho seku trva min 3 tyzdne), poslete tovar a za dva mesiace Vam zavolaju z banky, ze sek nepreplatia, lebo zasielatelska banka tento sek neschvalila. Vasa banka Vam potom nauctuje cca 55 EUR za bankove ukony nice, ze? Takze sa v ziadnom pripade nenechajte namotat na seky, paypal, wester union a podobne sracky...

V pripade platenia alebo prijmania vacsieho obnosu, ak sa z obchodnym partnerom nepoznate a nemate medyi sebou vypracovanu doveru, odporucam navrhnut predajcovi/kupujucemu platbu na "dokumentarny akreditiv", kde domaca a zahranicna banka beru na seba cele riziko a zodpovednosti. Nebudem rozoberat, co to je a co to obnasa, ak to budete chciet vyuzit, proste zavolajte do banky, povedzte co potrebujete a oni Vas uz budu instruovat

snad som niekomu usetril nejake ojro

Takze som mu poslal nejake udaje a uz viem ako to funguje. Je v tom niekolko trikov naraz.

1. Pyta si FULL paypal details. Hned tu mu nejaky moron moze poslat aj heslo a vlastne uz vyhrali.
2. Aj ked mu poslel iba emailovu adresu (co som aj urobil, fake samozrejme ), tak ti dojde potvrdenie od service@paypal.com, ale ked sa pozries blizsie, tak "service@paypal.com" je len meno odosielatela a skutocna adresa je "servicedeptpay-pal@accountant.com".
3. Dalsi odrb je, ze hned po obdrzani toho akoze paypal potvrdenia (on mi poslal 1000 EUR) ti napise email, kde okrem ineho uvedie:

bla bla bla ..... I made an extra 400Eur and i am sure you noticed that,You'll have to send the extra amount to the Shipping Company through Western Union as soon as possible,So that they can come ahead for the pick up and also you should send the necessary Western Union Payment Information to PayPal for verification so that they can release the money to your asap. .... atd.

Cize taky trojity odrb. Niekto sa chyti na prvy trik, niekto na ten dalsi s Western Union. No, uz som spokojny, uz viem ako to funguje .

BennyOpel: Vdaka, naucil som sa nieco nove.

posli mu falosny Western Union listok , nech sa prejde na pobocku

Do kelu, to mi nenapadlo. Ja som mu uz napisal, ze som zavolal policiu.

Mne prišlo teraz niečo takéto: (od juan.luis@atlas.sk)
1.@: I am ok with the price of buying the moto for 3100euros but i do want you to
know that my client in france before travelling to the USA owes me the sum of
7600euros .I would need your full name , contact address and mobile number so
that the cheque can be sent. have the cheque cashed collect how much i bought it
and have the rest of the money sent to my shipping agent so that he can be at
your location for the pick up and shipment.
I read from you

Tak som mu prelozil inzerat a odpoved bola:
2.@: I am ok with the price of buying the moto for 3100euros but i do want you to
know that my client in france before travelling to the USA owes me the sum of
7600euros .I would need your full name , contact address and mobile number so
that the cheque can be sent. have the cheque cashed collect how much i bought it
and have the rest of the money sent to my shipping agent so that he can be at
your location for the pick up and shipment.
I read from you

Vcera mi tiez prisiel mail od toho juan.luis@atlas.sk. Ani som si to necital a vymazal. a ak sa dobre pamatam tak mi to prislo hned do spam zalozky. Hned ma napadlo ze to bude odrb aky som uz mohol viac krat citat, aj tu na motoride, pri predaji moto.

Edit: Ospravedlnujem sa, vložil som tam 2x to iste . 1. mail znel:

Greetings,
I am Juan living in london ,England UK.
I do want you to know that i am interested in the sale of your moto .
please do let me know the present condition, send me fotos and price in euros.
I read from you.

Upravené 1 krát. Naposledy upravil Filkus (20.06.2011 13:31)